Cyanide Pathway to ascorbic acid synthesis in humans
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Van Carman
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 Cyanide Pathway to ascorbic acid synthesis in humans
Has anyone researched this?Vitamin B17 may allow some synthesis of ascorbic acid in humans.Thanks,Van
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| Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:17 am |
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ofonorow
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I have not heard this. Any references??
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| Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:16 am |
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Van Carman
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Owen please google:Effect of cyanide on the biosynthesis of ascorbic acid by an enzyme preparation from goat-liver tissue . Not good at urls.This is an interesting article.Thanks,Van
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| Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:11 am |
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Johnwen
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| Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:49 am |
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Van Carman
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Steve,Will you research this and let us know what you think?This may be the "sleeper" of the century.Thanks,Van
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| Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:32 am |
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Van Carman
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Olive leaves have a tiny trace of cyanide.This may be part of the mechanics of how they work.If people could"pick up "on this ascorbic acid biosynthesis pathway it would be a boon to humanity.Thanks,Van
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| Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:14 am |
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Ralph Lotz
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Cyanide increases ascorbate in animals that produce it: Biosynthesis of L-Ascorbic Acid: Missing Steps in Animals incapable of synthesizing the Vitamin http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v1 ... 163a0.htmlI could find no evidence either at PUBMED or GOOGLESCHOLAR[b][/b to support the notion that CYANIDE has anything to do with ascorbate synthesis in humans, monkeys guinea pigs, red billed bul-bul birds or fruit bats. Where does this notion come from?
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| Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:05 pm |
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Van Carman
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Everyone should get their quota of vitamin B17 if for nothing else,to feel real good.In the Bible seeds were part of the healthy diet.Seeds contain Vitamin B17(cyanide).Thanks ,Van
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| Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:26 am |
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Van Carman
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I just found another interesting article:Synthesis of Ascorbic Acid by the Osone-Cyanide Method Thanks,Van
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| Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:09 am |
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Johnwen
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This the one you talking about Van? A study from 1952 (58 years old) http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja01140a052
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| Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:48 am |
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Van Carman
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Thanks Johnwen.This is the article I found.I tell people now to take their Vitamin B17.It certainly would be good insurance.Have you heard that Vitamin B12 actually breaks down to cobalt ascorbate in our body?It seems that cyanide somehow allows some ascorbate production in humans.Vitamin B12 is cyanocobalamin.Thanks,Van
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| Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:48 am |
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Van Carman
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In researching vitamin B17(cyanide)a lot of the symptoms of its deficiency are the same as the symptoms of scurvy.I thought this was noteworthy.Thanks,Van
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godsilove
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Van Carman wrote: In researching vitamin B17(cyanide)a lot of the symptoms of its deficiency are the same as the symptoms of scurvy.I thought this was noteworthy.Thanks,Van There's no such thing as vitamin B17 deficiency.
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| Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:48 pm |
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Skip
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I'm really wondering what pharmaceutical company you work with. You sound more and more like a Big Pharma shill.
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| Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:34 am |
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godsilove
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Skip wrote: I'm really wondering what pharmaceutical company you work with. You sound more and more like a Big Pharma shill. Huh? "Vitamin B17" is amygdalin, it's not a vitamin. Furthermore, there is no rigorous evidence supporting the claim that people have an amygdalin deficiency. But hey, I guess Dr. Weil is a Big Pharma shill too: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400624/D ... n-B17.html 
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