Still Has Angina After Angioplasty/Stent - Pakistan

[ofonorow]

It is possible that the "pain" after the meal is related to GERD. After exertion is more common of angina pectoris.

[sarmierb]

[ofonorow]

Thank you for posting. I strongly disagree with your doctor's advice to stop vitamin C. As I may have already mentioned, Pauling advised not stopping vitamin C "even for a single day." Now we are all individuals, and you may be a rare exception to the rule that high vitamin C is safe. I am hoping that by posting here, someone may have an idea/theory why your urea increased while on high vitamin C, and why it seemed to normalize after you stopped ascorbate.

[zeeeeeee]

Hi Owen!

I hope you are doing well.

A little bit of update before I ask my question. My father is doing exceptionally well with his angina. He hasn't had it ever since he reached his maximum intake which is 18 grams. He has been walking a lot lately but still there is no sign of angina.

Now to my question. Lately, he has been having pain in his hands. He says he feels extreme burning feeling in his knuckles.His knuckles even lockout at times where he cant move them. It's becoming very difficult for him to hold on to any object.

I was wondering if you have come across such a case in the past. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Regards

[ofonorow]

I notice that my reply to the above message was never posted properly. Sorry. It probably revolved around the idea of following Linus Pauling's entire regimen in HOW TO LIVE LONGER AND FEEL BETTER as this regimen cleared up my own gouty arthritis around 20 years ago.

Dear Owen,

First of all, I'd like to thank you for all your help you have given me.My father's quality of life has improved greatly with angina out of his life.

Owen I had some questions for you. My father forced his cardiologist to stop plavix. but now he has him on lowplat.I just recently discovered that it is almost the same as plavix. Since my father has reached his maximum vitamin c tolerence and hes been on it for a few months now I wanted him to venture and stop taking lowplat all together. I'd appreciate if you can shed some like on it.

He is also taking angettes(asprin). I wanted to replace it with arginine 3-6 grams.what do you suggest about that?

And in your book you state not to take vitamin k with blood thinners. I want to know if this is an absolute no no? I believe the medicines he is on right now, some of the are blood thinners.I think asprin is a blood thinner too??

I know I have asked you a lot of questions.But I cant ask these to anyone else.And my father's cardiologist being the worst one to ask.

Regards,
Z.

Glad your dad is feeling better.

By blood thinner, I mean warfarin or heparin/coumadin - and your father would be told not to take vitamin K. If he isn't being told, it is fine to take it.

I don't like aspirin - arginine is a good replacement, probably in conjunction with Omega-3 oils, vitamin E, and even Wobenzymes.

What is his C tolerance? How much vitamin C can he take? Depending on the answer, I might recommend adding lipospheric (Lypo-C) from livonlabs.com to get even more into his blood stream.

[ofonorow]

Dear Owen,

Thank you for your response.

The current medicines my father is taking are:
Tenorimin:100mg/day
Lowplat:75mg/day
elan:50mg/day
Angettes(Asprin):75mg/day

I'll ask him to ask his cardiologist if anyone of these are blood thinners.
His vitamin C tolence is 16.5 grams/day.He was having 18 but said that was
giving him diherrea.

Currently he is taking the following supplements:

Vitamin C:16.5g/day
CoQ10:200 mg
Lysine:6 g
Vitamin K:1.8 g
Magnesium: 750 mg
fish oils:2 g

Since he has reached his max vitamin C intake I want him to gradually go
off the medicines all together.what do you think? I'll start off with asprin.

So with arginine I guess I'll start of with 3 grams/day.How much of
vitamin E?and what function does Wobenzymes have.I tried googling but only
found its an anti-inflamatory supplement.

Btw, I had another question.I'd appreciate if you can answer it.My father
has extreme pain in his knuckles.To a point where he cant lift anything
slightly heavy.He says he feels a burning sesation in them.Do you have any
idea what this might be?

Thanks a lot for all the help Owen.We really appreciate it.

Regards,
Z

[ofonorow]

Hi owen,

I hope you are doing well.

Just a reminder, my father is taking the following:

Vitamin C:16.5g/day
CoQ10:200 mg
Lysine:6 g
Vitamin K:1.8 g
Magnesium: 750 mg
fish oils:2 g

He is also taking ascard and Lipiget along with it(recently restarted).

A recent blood test of my father had the following results:


Haematocrit 39.9%
Haemoglobin 13.5%(Normal range:13.7-16.3)
Vitamin d3 22.28(vitamin d insufficiency)
Serum.cholestrol 241 mg/dl
Serum. Triglycerides 143 mg/dl
HDL-Cholestrol 29 mg/dl
LDL-Cholestrol 180mg/dl
VLDL-Cholestrol 29 mg/dl
Glucose fasting 104 (Normal range: 65-110)

The doctor is saying his cholestrol levels are too high.What do you think might be the cause?He is not having any angina at all. Been complaining about joint aches lately but that's it.

I'll appreciate and help on this.

Also,my mother has had high blood pressure for a long time.We had to rush her to the hospital today.I am thinking of getting her started with vitamin c too.along with lysine.I searched your forums and in one of the posts you said this combination can lower bp.So ill give it a try.

Many Thanks!

Z

Your father has started drugs again - for what reason?

16.5 grams of vitamin C is usually quite adequate, but some people require twice as much to reverse the illness. See http://www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm

From the high glucose/cholesterol, I infer that he requires more vitamin C. (He should make sure he is avoiding processed foods with unnatural fats, trans fats are especially bad and will lead to high blood sugar, which competes with vitamin C for uptake to cells.)

I hope he is also getting a multiple vitamin. Vitamin E is very important, for example. I might add Alpha Lipoic Acid until the blood sugar goes down to 80-90. Will help with C absorption.

Yes, you mother would do well to begin vitamin C.

[ofonorow]

Hi Owen,

He started back because the doctors have freaked him out because of the high cholesterol. I will get him to up the vitamin c and drop the drugs out.

I also think that his food intake is not good.I will get him to improve onthat.

I'll come back to you with results in 30 days.

Hes having a lot of trouble with weakness and aches in his body.Can he do something about that? he never has energy to do anything.


Thanks a lot for your help.

Regards,
Z.

Weakness and aches in the body (muscles) are symptoms of coenzyme Q10 depletion. Many drugs interfere with the body's production of CoQ10, and thus these drugs will cause weakness and aches in the body - statins, especially, are known to deplete coQ10 blood levels - which is why these symptoms appear. While he is weaning himself off the drugs, preferably with a doctor's help, he should take perhaps 400 mg of coQ10, eat with fats, and after he feels better, and is off the drugs, he could perhaps lower to 200 mg CoQ10 daily. I know it is not cheap.