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Post Vitamin C - good or bad for vitiligo
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Hello Mr Fonorow

I was given your email by the vitamin c foundation. I have an autoimmune condition called vitiligo. I was told conflicting things about vit c and my condition. Some say you need it to help repigment and others says vitamin c will increase my white patches as it inhibits melanin production?? I'm so confused and would love your opinion on this

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Ralph


I don't know. Anything I do know I just learned from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitiligo

You need vitamin C to live/exist, the only question is how much to put you in the best of health, usually more (to match the vit. C production of animals that can make it themselves). If the caution were true, then this is really the first condition that requires less, and not more vitamin C. But the rest of your body would suffer.

When I now hear "auto immune" I think "low cortisol."

Back to wikipedia - I do notice that most of the suspected causes would be helped by vitamin C (.e.g., oxidation) and that a standard treatment *is* topical cortisol!

I also love the idea of using UV/B lamps. This implies, that if it works, that Vitamin D is involved, since these lamps will increase vitamin D, especially in winter. (I use a reptile lamp with a UV/B band, and minimal UV/A (tanning).)

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Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:57 am
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Thank you Dr. Fonorow. I would love to start taking high doses of vit c for other problems I have (back pain etc) but am undergoing uv light treatments and coritisone creams on my face to get rid of the vitiligo and would hate for that progress to be undone by talking vit c. Any help u can give me would be greatly appreciated
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Ralph


Can you provide ANY legit (or even phony) reference that vitamin C might interfere with these treatments?

And if you have back pain - again I think of cortisol, adrenal fatigue - Though near impossible from a regular doc, you might ask if you can get cortisol as pills. So you could not only take topical, but also internally. (I am starting to believe that an entire class of benefits associated with high vitamin C has to do with increasing and promoting the output of the adrenal cortex, i.e. cortisol.)

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In few medical colleges, research workers are trying antioxidants; however my perplexity arises from the fact that no distinction is made between good (as far as Vitiligo is concerned) and bad antioxidants. It is well known that Vitamin C is a potent antioxidant, however, Vitamin C –in high dosages – stops the process of melanogenesis (4,5); this fact is largely ignored with the results that the disease worsens. Vitamin E, a good antioxidant, has proved to be useless in Vitiligo(6), and moreover high dosages –according to pharmacologists- may act in an opposite way.
Locally: apart from Psoralens, a few doctors are oriented towards Tacrolimus; however results are not so good because, in many cases, the milder concentration of 0.03% is used instead of 0.1% -which is the recommended one and sun-exposure is not always done, though Ostovari (7) has proved that sun exposure is necessary for Tacrolimus to be effective.


http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/24976/InTech-Complementary_and_alternative_medicine_for_vitiligo.pdf

http://www.curevitiligo.com/English/vitiligo.htm#8

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Post Re: Vitamin C - good or bad for vitiligo
"This increasingly common abnormality is another symptom of malnutrition, and has been corrected by giving 150 to 300mg of pantothenic acid daily, or 1000 mg or more of
PABA. Applying PABA ointment to the depigmented areas sometimes brings marked improvement. This condition usually clears up after the diet is unusually high all the natural sources of B vitamins. I once told a 30 year old woman with severe vitiligo that liver would probably help her more than any other food. A week later she joyously returned to show me that not a trace of it remained, but she had eaten a 1/4 pound of raw liver, frozen, diced and covered with catsup, at each meal. Several other such persons have had the condition clear up slowly on a more appetizing diet."
Adelle Davis, 1965, referring to research c 1945-1950

Those links are hogwash BS.

People who pay attention will note that B vitamins and especially pantothenic acid are prime factors in adrenal function, hence cortisol etc.
While cortisol may help alleviate pain, the pain is better controlled by not letting it start, and by personal experience the same B vitamins that prevent vitligo will do that. And V-C, calcium, magnesium will also stop pain from starting, and control it if it does start.

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